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Author:  Tehken [ 06 Oct 2010, 23:04 ]
Post subject:  Re: Archers -> so weak
Sj5 wrote:
Devlin wrote:
Archers seem to be weak when you compare them with a warrior. In arena they don't have a chance against a warrior or even against an assassin. Warriors are so powerfull and have so much hp. Archers have less hp as normal but don't hit powerful enough to knock down a warrior. I thought maybe you guys wanna think about it.


So the thing this dude is requesting is that archers become strong enough to kill equally geared warrior/sin/priest/mage in a vs. Oh and so they can make 5k dmg with normal arrow so people can't run away!
What an brilliant idea!!!

Atm archers hit 1k++ to df/baha warrior. That is same as warrior dmg and those cowards never need to risk their ass by coming near...............................


Dude... Listen for a second. I explained what's wrong with the Archers in other post but i'll tell it here again.
Yes we do hit high but not much higher then the other classes. The main difference here is that we do like 50% less DPS then all of the rest. So do you see the dilemma?
Damage per second is important.. but noone ever stops to realize why.
And the simple math is: for 1 second warrior/bp/sin/mage hit's me 3 times: 2 skills+r
I hit him once ;)
DPS in melee range should be equalized for all classes. Because this is the trick.

Anyway, I appreciate your ideas and suggestions guys. Thanks a bunch!
Author:  kasu2 [ 07 Oct 2010, 07:50 ]
Post subject:  Re: Archers -> so weak
Minoooooor, MrBierrrrr, MrRocket, MRBrujo, Mr.0bject, arrow
and 2 more gg rogues or 1 mage :D
Best pk pt in server :P :P
Author:  Sj5 [ 07 Oct 2010, 10:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: Archers -> so weak
Quote:
Dude... Listen for a second. I explained what's wrong with the Archers in other post but i'll tell it here again.
Yes we do hit high but not much higher then the other classes. The main difference here is that we do like 50% less DPS then all of the rest. So do you see the dilemma?
Damage per second is important.. but noone ever stops to realize why.
And the simple math is: for 1 second warrior/bp/sin/mage hit's me 3 times: 2 skills+r
I hit him once ;)
DPS in melee range should be equalized for all classes. Because this is the trick.

Anyway, I appreciate your ideas and suggestions guys. Thanks a bunch!


Dude archers make highest dmg per secons with their arrow shower. Go practice your combo insted of crying here. I just made archer and I'm laughing my ass off. 1k dmg to shielded mages and they can't even get close to me. Oh and with power shot 3k dmg lol...
Archers are already over powered.
Author:  Karburator13 [ 07 Oct 2010, 19:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Archers -> so weak
Sj5 wrote:
Quote:
Dude... Listen for a second. I explained what's wrong with the Archers in other post but i'll tell it here again.
Yes we do hit high but not much higher then the other classes. The main difference here is that we do like 50% less DPS then all of the rest. So do you see the dilemma?
Damage per second is important.. but noone ever stops to realize why.
And the simple math is: for 1 second warrior/bp/sin/mage hit's me 3 times: 2 skills+r
I hit him once ;)
DPS in melee range should be equalized for all classes. Because this is the trick.

Anyway, I appreciate your ideas and suggestions guys. Thanks a bunch!


Dude archers make highest dmg per secons with their arrow shower. Go practice your combo insted of crying here. I just made archer and I'm laughing my ass off. 1k dmg to shielded mages and they can't even get close to me. Oh and with power shot 3k dmg lol...
Archers are already over powered.


try vs warriors ever a valkry archer cant againts warrior

btw if you would make t bow like a crossbow that would help alot

cuz crosbows are main hand and normal bows left hand and there is no point too use wes ( weapon enchant scroll ) whit a crossbow would it be better its 200 ap more ;)
Author:  ClayPot [ 09 Oct 2010, 12:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Archers -> so weak
Sj5 wrote:
Quote:
Dude... Listen for a second. I explained what's wrong with the Archers in other post but i'll tell it here again.
Yes we do hit high but not much higher then the other classes. The main difference here is that we do like 50% less DPS then all of the rest. So do you see the dilemma?
Damage per second is important.. but noone ever stops to realize why.
And the simple math is: for 1 second warrior/bp/sin/mage hit's me 3 times: 2 skills+r
I hit him once ;)
DPS in melee range should be equalized for all classes. Because this is the trick.

Anyway, I appreciate your ideas and suggestions guys. Thanks a bunch!


Dude archers make highest dmg per secons with their arrow shower. Go practice your combo insted of crying here. I just made archer and I'm laughing my ass off. 1k dmg to shielded mages and they can't even get close to me. Oh and with power shot 3k dmg lol...
Archers are already over powered.


Yeah..archer have the best dps with g0od sh0wer n multi combo..8 arr0w ps is n0t en0f?each arr0w make 2xx dmg..@@..i have try use rebirth shell 0n my archer..and i vs full valk set sin use ac..i can make him redball bef0re i die..just use rebirth shell !!practice ur c0mb0 br0..d0nt say archer is "so weak"
Author:  Price [ 09 Oct 2010, 13:11 ]
Post subject:  Re: Archers -> so weak
ClayPot wrote:
Sj5 wrote:
Quote:
Dude... Listen for a second. I explained what's wrong with the Archers in other post but i'll tell it here again.
Yes we do hit high but not much higher then the other classes. The main difference here is that we do like 50% less DPS then all of the rest. So do you see the dilemma?
Damage per second is important.. but noone ever stops to realize why.
And the simple math is: for 1 second warrior/bp/sin/mage hit's me 3 times: 2 skills+r
I hit him once ;)
DPS in melee range should be equalized for all classes. Because this is the trick.

Anyway, I appreciate your ideas and suggestions guys. Thanks a bunch!


Dude archers make highest dmg per secons with their arrow shower. Go practice your combo insted of crying here. I just made archer and I'm laughing my ass off. 1k dmg to shielded mages and they can't even get close to me. Oh and with power shot 3k dmg lol...
Archers are already over powered.


Yeah..archer have the best dps with g0od sh0wer n multi combo..8 arr0w ps is n0t en0f?each arr0w make 2xx dmg..@@..i have try use rebirth shell 0n my archer..and i vs full valk set sin use ac..i can make him redball bef0re i die..just use rebirth shell !!practice ur c0mb0 br0..d0nt say archer is "so weak"

+1 I agree with you Clay
Author:  GM_Kaoz [ 09 Oct 2010, 17:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Archers -> so weak
Archers can kill all classes if they tank - All you need is 2-3x valks

I do agree on increasing slow and stuns for archers. Since you can never kill assassins with valks who always run.

I think you should let arrow mentor you, he can teach you archer combo.
Author:  Tehken [ 10 Oct 2010, 16:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: Archers -> so weak
GM_Kaoz wrote:
Archers can kill all classes if they tank - All you need is 2-3x valks

I do agree on increasing slow and stuns for archers. Since you can never kill assassins with valks who always run.

I think you should let arrow mentor you, he can teach you archer combo.


Thank you for the attention you guys gave to this topic. Also thanks to the dude who always try to flame with nothing constructive in his posts. (I find it amusing to read his replies early in the morning when having my coffee.)

The combo itself is not the idea about this topic. It was the stun and slow thing as Kaoz properly identified and stick to the original point. (Thanks about that btw.)

The main idea behind my words was that i believe the stun/slow rates and skills with close or same results should be as close in duration/success chance as possible for all the classes equipped with armors giving the same resistance and bonuses. Everything else like improving the armors/resists etc is the essence of the game.
Author:  Theon [ 12 Feb 2013, 08:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: Archers -> so weak
/Moved and closed because old topic.
12 Feb 2013
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